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Interviewed by Deborah Snoonian, P.E.

Photograph by Euclides Santiago
It took a few Circle Line tours,
hundreds of photographs and sketches, and two long rolls of
trace paper to get there, but Matteo Pericolis debut
book, a foldout illustration of New Yorks West and East
Side skyliness called Manhattan Unfurled, became an instant
classic when it was released in October 2001. He followed
up with Manhattan Within and See the City, a childrens
book based on Unfurled, which got an exposure boost when the
rap group The Beastie Boys used its drawings as cover art
for To the 5 Boroughs, their album dedicated to New York.
Pericoli earned a degree in architecture from the Polytechnic
Institute of Milan and moved to New York in 1995, working
for a time for Richard Meier on the Jubilee Church in Rome.
Q:
Why did you turn Manhattan
Unfurled into a childrens book?
When I began drawing the West SideI
didnt know yet that it was going to become a bookI
thought to myself, if I can make a drawing out of this apparent
or stereotyped chaos of New York that is clear and understandable
even to children, then I will have achieved something. So
I gave myself a simple rule to handle the complexity of the
skyline: to draw everything I saw, not to leave anything behind,
that every building is worth drawing because its Manhattan.
I wanted the drawing to appeal to children, too, thats
why the waves in the rivers are drawn playfully, like monsters
almost. The idea would be that, for children, the skyline
is an image, an image that you can change, by adding buildings,
or coloring it perhaps.

Manhattan Within (above) shows
Pericolis color renderings of the buildings that
ring Central Park, and includes a journal he wrote while
he worked on the book. Below, a portion of the east side
from Manhattan Unfurled. |
How have your drawings influenced
your relationship with the city?
We as Europeans have a view of New York
thats informed mostly by movies, commercials, magazines,
things like that. When I moved here I was expecting to feel
detachment, massive buildings pushing me away. But in reality
this place is very different from what anyone can see from
far away. I found it to be as difficult as I expected, but
at the same time there are neighborhoods and sights not in
the guidebooks that make it very livable and humane. And its
antiquated in a way I didnt expect. Going into the subway
was like going into the ruins of an ancient city. So, I felt
a sense of injustice that much of what Id been led to
believe about New York, and by extension about America, was
not true. And I felt a real warmth for the city because of
that. Thats why I began the first drawingto understand
New York, and to appreciate it.
Do you have a favorite building
in Manhattan?
I always liked how the U.N. is rotated
off the grid. Its the only building that looks out toward
the east in a very clear manner. I had nausea while I was
working on it because I had to draw all the windows, and then
out of curiosity, when I was done, I counted the lines and
I found out I had drawn 3,000 lines for that building. Three
thousand lines! I probably absorbed it better than I did any
other building I drew because of its orientationit gave
me the whole of itself.
What projects are you working on
now?
Im writing and illustrating another
childrens book, and Im also thinking about a new
drawing project for New York. My wife and I moved recently
from the Upper West Side to Jackson Heights, in Queens, and
when everything was ready to go, I realized that the view
from the window next to where I worked was stuck there, and
I wouldnt be able to see it again. Imagine spending
seven years working at the same table and glancing up every
minute or so through the window; it must have been months
of staring. I realized how much my view of the city affected
my work and my well-being. So I drew first a sketch and then
a larger, more realistic drawing of the view, as if I had
been able to peel from the glass what I could see. I took
it with me so that I could enjoy this view even from the new
place. In New York, the view from the window is incredibly
important. It belongs to the interior, not the city. So Im
imagining a book of drawings that would be an encyclopedia
of these window views, invisible to everyone else but the
people who use and enjoy the view. The drawings would have
to include the people, of course, and the window frames themselves,
to be complete.
What do you enjoy most about drawing?
Each line has an invisible weight of
fear and pleasure. In Manhattan Within, those big lines that
go from bottom to toplike the bridge crossings, zoom!those
were tough, choosing the angle, the orientation. But you have
to start somewhere. The thing that can never be taken away
from drawing by hand is the fear, the fear of doing something
thats real and committed to paper. Its the fear
that makes it worth doing.
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